Barbara's Death

[speedoflight]

Today is the anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death. Both Marilyn and Barbara Yung has much in common from a death perspective...

* Both were young, pretty, smart and at the peak of their careers
* Both bodies were found sprawled dead in their apartments
* Both deaths were considered suicides but did not have any suicide notes or hard evidence to prove this being so
* Both deaths were not investigated in depth
* Both were giving interviews prior to their deaths and in these interviews, they talked about the future, etc.


I do not believe Barbara committed suicide and it's not because of my wanting to believe it as being so. I'd heard some radio interviews (audio clips) she gave 2 weeks before she dided and she did NOT act or sound like someone who would kill herself in the days and weeks prior to the act itself. And most importantly, she was found sprawled dead on the floor in her apartment. Almost every suicide death I've heard has always been of someone who had prepared their deaths, i.e. they'd place themselves in a chair, in bed and most importantly, they typically write suicide notes to close the chapter in their lives and to say why they committed suicide. There's a psychological aspect to making others feel very guilty about their mishaps in life that caused them to commit the ultimate act. They don't get found sprawled on the floor in their apartments as if it's an impromptu act and they just fell where they stood when they inhaled gas.

The other group of people who commit suicide are those who are clinically depressed, who have so much wrong chemically that they kill themselves to stop the torture and pain in their lives. Barbara was obviously not clinically depressed for she was acting and interacting with people very successfully before she died.

Marilyn's death was not investigated in at the time for this was back in a time (she died in the 60s) when forensic investigation was not as advanced as it is today. But most of all, there's always been a belief that there was a mob connection with her death. She was one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and she was in the company of some extremely powerful men and also the mob.

[TAMMY]

WOW,speedoflight
U always bring up good points. I also heard about marilyn monroe case. Alot of people beleive she was murdered for some reasons. Of course back int he days, the tech is not that advance for the investigator to keep up or they just dont want to bother.
For barbara, I also heard/read(somewhere..cant remeber) that michael Miu said Barbara did not have any sign that she wanted to take her live away. She was very perky/active and normal like every other day. He could never guess that she would do such things( but in the end..he still th ink she kill herself due to love..or hes just trying to cover what he know...who knows???).
After u bringing up all of the good points..it really pissttt me off when people claimed that she killed herself due to love and how kent broke her heart..sigh...

[Lanie]

Speed, Tammy, and other MB fans:

"Pissed off" is too little of a word to describe my feelings now when I hear that people think that she suidicide because of Kent and Love. It really bothers me. There is really nothing I can do about it. I am pretty sure that Michael knows the truth but he is covering up also like everyone else in HK who knows the truth.

In this case, it makes Barbara looks really weak. It makes her look like she was so obsessive with Kent and too dependent on his love. In reality, if anyone who is an MB fan, knows that her love for Kent was not real. If it was, there would be no such thing as MB chemistry and love that we all saw from their series and pictures together.

Yes Speed, you are absolutely right about Marilyn Monroe too. I saw a whole documentary on her death. After seeing it, I was convinced that she was murdered. Hers and Barbara's cases are exactly the same.

If someone is sprawling on the floor, doesn't it mean that they're not prepared to die? It's so obvious.

Regarding interviews like you (Speed) had brought it up, all 3 (Barbara, Leslie, and Marilyn) did not give any impressions that they were depressed. These 3 cases are really suspicious.

The truth will never be revealed because it's a conspiracy. Therefore, I can only hope all of them are in a better place, and justice will be served in an after life for those who are responsible. In the end, it's all about karma.

[speedoflight]

Lanie:
On August 5, 2005, the Los Angeles Times published an account of Monroe's death by former Los Angeles County prosecutor John W. Miner, who was present at the autopsy as well as Miner's notes purportedly made from tapes Monroe had made for her psychiatrist, which he claims show she was not suicidal. Unfortunately, the original tapes no longer exist, and the notes had never been mentioned until 2005. He said that he would really like the authorities to exhume her body to run forensic tests to find out how she really died and to see if there were things out of line. But that was just something mentioned, there's no act of exhuming yet. Marilyn was found naked and facedown on her bed in the bedroom of her home. (Barbara was found sprawled on the living room floor of her apartment).

With Barbara, due to the fact that she was cremated, there's no way to do any forensic tests into her body now. If someone were to open an investigation, it would have to be based on the coroner's report in 1985, assuming that the coroner in charge then had done a decent job. Since it was a HK coroner in charge, I would not hold my breath that it was a thoroughly done autopsy. I do not hold any confidence in the HK authorities in cracking cases.

The reason why they'd pinned it on a broken romance with Ken Tong was because of Stephen Chow. Chow was supposedly the last person Barbara spoke to the night before she was found dead. According to Chow, she was distressed over Ken Tong. Chow was the person who found her in her apartment the next day because he had come by her apartment to check in on her that following morning. When he smelled fumes under her door, he tried to get in. He notified the building management and the cops. It is unclear if he got in first without their help or if they got in together to her apartment. Barbara was found sprawled on the floor in the living room. That was the story that was written all over in 1985. The Stephen Chow that is mentioned is not the same Stephen Chow who is now a film comedien/martial arts star. The Stephen Chow who found Barbara is Chow Sai-lung (I believe that was his Chinese name). There were some reports that said that Stephen Chow had the hearts for Barbara as well at the time.

I don't think the truth will ever come out of either Barbara or Marilyn's deaths. With Barbara, there was also a lot of the Chinese melodramatic preference for her death to be because of "love" rather than something else. Sort of a "Leading lady fell for leading man. Leading man dumps leading lady. Leading lady became broken hearted and committed suicide."

Barbara's suicide does make her sound weak and young. Like she was obsessed over a man to the point that she would throw her life away. I've read so many postings from younger fans who have said that they found out that she had died from their parents or older friends who told them that Barbara died because of love.

I've finally completed listening to the audio clips on the www.barbarayung.net/ site and there's a series of clips there that contains a lengthy interview she gave to a radio station. On that show, which was aired on March 14, 1985, she was asked a lot of questions regarding her personality, her relationship with Ken Tong and her future hopes/dreams.

*) Regarding her personality.
She said that she is a very independent woman. She felt that came from her being in the UK for about 8 years. When she returned to HK, she saw a huge contrast between life in the UK and in HK. She believed in striving for the best and would never take less for an answer. She also said that she's a very casual person and that despite being famous, she was still the same person as she was before she became known. She mentioned that she did not like dressing up or applying make up as she preferred a more low key appearance. She said that she's someone who could easily walk into a disco to dance on her own without a male partner because that was so normal in the UK but she knows that's not the norm in HK.

* Relationship with Ken Tong
She said Ken and her are good friends and became acquaintanted from doing "Sap Sam Mui". She said that she wasn't sure why people kept insisting that there was romance between them when they considered each other to be good friends. She said that she respected him and his career. She also said that she realized she was frequently linked romantically with many male leads from the movies she's been with. This being because she would hang out a lot with them. But it was merely because she was starring in movies with them rather than a deliberate action. She understood that there was a big cultural difference between HK and the UK. In the UK, it was OK for a woman to have many male friends and not be seen as being abnormal.

* Future Dreams/Hopes
She said that she would like her partner/husband to be someone with a high intelligence and ambitions. She would not want someone who would be below her in qualifications, intellect and ambitions. She also said that hopefully she would someday have a family in her life. She also hoped that her career would continue to blossom but realizes the ups and downs of the entertainment business. She understood that thus far she had been very lucky to enjoy a streak of success.

So....with that Lanie, and many ML fans out there...you tell me if she sounded suicidal or not....

[TAMMY]

To me, from what i read , ml seems like shes very high maintance(in a good way). I think tis hard for people to think she let go of herself so easily.
Speedoglight, i was wondering if you are fluent in canto ?? There are lots of articles out there about Ml, but us" chinese illerate" fans cant read chinese.
I was wondering i u can help us sometimes???

[Betty]

WOW!! Thanks for the valuable information speedoflight. I never knew Marilyn and Barbara death's had so much in common. You have given me a better understanding of Barbara's death. The translations has help me understand why when Barbara takes picture with Kent, they seem like they are co-workers or friends ONLY!!! WOW! I guess the media spread rumors about everyone!! All this time it was UNTRUE! From reading the translation: it seems like Barbara was an independent person with a goal in life. It doesn't seem to me that she is the type of person who would suicide. I'm RIGHT!!! Oh how I wish they would just open up her case again and find out the real reason...but I guess that's impossible because its been too long. Lanie, you're right! I hope Barbara can just rest in peace and justice will be served. We will never know. All we can do is not let her memory die.

[Aka]

Even though it may be sort of late for me to join in the discussion, but I agree that there are a lot of suspicious things surrounding the claim that Barbara died from committing suicide for love.

In addition to the suspicious points already raised by you guys, I recently found a picture in sina. com. Here is the link:
image2.sina.com.cn/ent/s/h/2005-05-13/U92P28T3D722546F358DT20050513061809.jpg
The thread: ent.sina.com.cn/s/h/2005-05-13/0618722546.html
The picture was picture of Barbara's apartment at the time of her death. The caption described that her apartment was in a disorderly state.

From Barbara's interview, it seems that she is someone who is quite perfectionist, and would like everything to be at her best. I think it's a suspicious point that her apartment was disorderly at the time of her death. I especially agree that the fact that she was found sprawled on the floor to be raising a lot of suspicion from allegation that she committed suicide.

Anyway, whether or not she committed suicide, I still respect and adore her. We probably will never find out what's the real reason behind her death, but there is definitely doubts that she committed suicide. I'm especially not very convinced that she did it out of love for Kent Tong. If she really committed suicide, I believe it's due to various reasons about life. This is probably why I don't blame Kent Tong that much, even though I still think he doesn't deserve his affection/love because of the way he sort of behaves today. But anyway, I hope Barbara will find happiness after life.

[Steve Lord]

Barbara is the manipulator of men's hearts.

She knew she was interested by man fans and actors, she a game to outfox each other. She dramas like a script to them. She talked to one with the intent to create jealousy on them with each other.

Why would a girl would spend her time telling her heart to another man. Normally, if it confused, a girl would talk to personal senior girl or woman for counselling and advise.

Woman normally talked to woman of aged older than her in order to know the perspective from them. But she went talking to Stephen Chow was clearly a falsehood by Stephen after he entered her apartment.

And from the story, Stephen goes to her apartment twice, one was the previous night but found no replay on her door. He then went to apartment again the next morning at 7 am, and climbed into her apartment on suspicious of gas leakage. It showed that he was desperately wanted to romance her and this wanted him to be the first to sex her.